Fateh Sami
20 August 2021

The Web-Afghan in Japan (WAJ) recently conducted an interview with Mr. Fateh
Sami, an Afghan Academic, former Kabul Times Editor, SBS Radio Assistant
and senior freelance journalist on the recent development in Afghanistan. The
transcript of the interview is presented here below. (Interviewer is Juichi
Noguchi)

WAJ: Why the Taliban so quickly captured Kabul?

A: Let me please to respond to your query after a brief background information
for awareness of your readers and listeners. You may know that the USA invaded
Afghanistan in the name of fighting terrorism, headed by Bin Ladin, the leader of
al-Qaeda after the 9/11 terror attack. When Taliban administration was active in
Afghanistan, it was officially recognised and supported by Pakistan and Saudi
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Arabia. Bin Ladin after 9/11 attack left Afghanistan for Pakistan. Where was he
hiding? Obviously, next to the headquarter of ISI for over ten years. Thus, Taliban
have been raised and trained in Pakistan as proxies of ISI. So, Taliban has not
captured Kabul, Pakistan has done.

WAJ: Yes, we know. It is reported that Bin Ladin was killed on 2nd of May in
2011 at Abbottabad, near Pakistani military facility by US Secret Unit. Pakistani
authorities say they didn't know about American secret operations, but I can't
believe it.

A: How can Pakistani authorities deny that Al Qaeda Bin Ladin was not killed
by US Special Forces during a raid at a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. But
still they reject, no doubt that they are liars.

WAJ: Also, we are aware that there was rivalry between the USA and USSR
after the second World War known as the cold war era.

A: For sure you are likewise cognizant that after the People’s Democratic Party
of
Afghanistan (PDPA) which in a military coup toppled President Daoud’s
government, grabbed the power. Then the new government of PDPA initiated
certain social and economic reforms such as land reforms, literacy eradication
program and so on. During the implementation of those reforms the pro-soviet
communist government made many blunders and stupid things. Consequently,
party activists acted in a provocative way and their pugnacious behaviour in the
community, roused people and forced them to join the newly emerged insurgency
and resistance forces. Subsequently, a civil conflict raged across the country.
Millions of people left their homes and sought asylum in the neighbouring
countries of Pakistan and Iran and around the world.

WAJ: Yes, we know well. In addition, I also know that the PDPA sought Soviet
support for resolving inner conflicts in their party and for competing against
armed resistance in or out of the country to social reforms. Then the Soviet Union
sent troops. As a result, the Afghanistan issue has evolved into a global problem
at once.
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A: Exactly, the issue of Afghanistan heightened a rivalry between the USA and
the USSR in a new fashion. The Afghan refugees in Pakistan and the involvement
of the USA, NATO including many Islamic nations, on the issue of Afghanistan
for overcoming each other which unfortunately it lingered relentlessly in various
forms to date.

WAJ: Yes, now coming back to our question, “Why the Taliban so rapidly
entered Kabul?"

A: It is a good question. But it has not a short simple answer. You know that the
training centre of Taliban is Pakistan. Taliban militants are the proxy of Pakistan.
Other countries are also supporting them mainly, the USA, Pakistan, Saudi
Arabia, and Britain as I have stated in my articles and substantiated with evidence,
even Benazir Bhutto, former Pakistan prime minister, assassinated by Taliban
approved that in her book.

WAJ: After defeating the PDPA administration in 1992, the Mujahideen factions
started off violently fighting each other and since then the war intensified in
Afghanistan. So, in 1994, Pakistan (ISI), Saudi Arabia, the USA, and Britain gave
up on the mujahideen factions especially Heze- Islami headed by Gulbuddin
Hekmatyar and turned to creation and development of the same extremist Pashtun
Taliban. In 1996, the Taliban came to power in Afghanistan, and Bin Laden and
others who supported the Taliban also moved into Afghanistan, causing the 9.11
incident.

A: In 2001, after the invasion of USA the Taliban were defeated, their military
machine smashed, and their Emirate administration or government collapsed in
two months by the American and the forces of the so-called Northern alliance.
“However, there is not such an alliance, it is a term made up by General
Musharraf, former Pakistani president to denigrate the resistance forces of Ahmad
Shah Masoud. After defeat there was not any Taliban militia for almost three
years.
How they again appeared and got revived? They were invigorated by their patrons
mainly -Pakistan, Britain, the USA, and Saudi Arabia, according to Benazir
Bhutto.
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WAJ: Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf raised the Taliban and created a pro-
Pakistan government in Afghanistan, but was forced to cooperate in crushing the
Taliban under the strong pressure of US President Bush jr. I remember his bitter
face expression at that time.

A: Well, The Taliban militia was initially created By Nasrallah Babur, Minister
for home affairs in the cabinet of Benazir Bhutto. But, for sure General Musharraf
and the ISI raised and promoted them continually. No government in Pakistan
can deny that country has not been used for terrorists training centre since Afghan
Mujahidin war against the former Soviet Union. Bearing in mind that Hamid
Karzai and Ashraf Ghani the two Afghan presidents who were installed in power
with the support of the USA in an ostentatious, fake, and rigging election. Their
power base was very weak as compared to the Mujahidin government. Due to
their ethnic affiliation they both (Karzai & Ghani) with the help of Zalmay
Khalilzad supported the Taliban to undermine the power base of other ethnic
groups in their governments.

WAJ: USA, Britain, and NATO countries wanted the Karzai and Ghani
administration to be stable, but they were disgusted by their incompetence and
corruption and did not produce any results, so they decided to switch to the
Taliban before they knew it.

A: Most people who were appointed in the key military positions were pro
Pakistani agents, and most of them favour the Taliban because of their ethnic
tendency and affiliation. But the experienced military offices were sacked or was
retired at young ages. Moreover, the population on the two sides of the Durand
borderline, the disputed borderline between Afghanistan and Pakistan, are
dominantly Pashtun ethnicity. The Pakistani military along with the Taliban from
the other side of the borderline in the name of the Taliban enter Afghanistan.
While they are Pakistani, but difficult to recognise them because they are quite
similar by look and dialect.
The Taliban did not capture all cities and districts through combat operation. It
was not a military conquest but a political plot of the government to surrender the
army strong positions to Taliban. The army was ordered to withdraw
intentionally and to let the Taliban capture the areas and get access to the military
arsenals, heavy artillery, tanks, and vehicles.
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WAJ: The conspiracy was created in secret negotiations between the USA and
the Taliban over the years. Wasn’t it? When?

A: No doubt about that I agree. In Doha meeting, the USA special envoy for so-
called peace negotiations Zalmay Khalilzad, and Pakistani authorities had already
been programmed on many issues, handing over the affairs of Afghanistan to
Pakistan. The decisions had already been adopted behind the scenes on how to
put the Taliban into power, including the form of the prospective government
structure and the duration of the interim administration prior to an election for
apparently establishing a “broad-based government.” The Doha meeting
continued for over two years. It seems as if everything has already been planned
to include how the power should be transferred to the perspective interim
administration and on the replacement of Ashraf Ghani.

WAJ: What is the main reason for the abrupt collapse of the Ghani’s government?

A: The unexpected collapse is related to many factors which are mainly.

▪ Cooperation and tendency of the government with Taliban.

▪ the army was not supported to attack the Taliban by Ghani government.
▪ Logistic and necessary types of equipment, arms, ammunition, and food
were not provided for the Army, especially when they were surrendered
or caught in an ambush
▪ the agreement between Pakistan and the USA to hand over
Afghanistan’s affairs to Pakistan.
▪ the favouritism of the fifth column, favouring the Taliban.
▪ the Afghan government supported strengthening the Taliban and
impeded fighting against them due to ethnic inclination.
▪ the foreign intelligence influence in continuing fighting to plunder the
mineral resources of Afghanistan and to boost the narcotics trafficking
and their drugs business income.
▪ the most important military and political decisions were made by Ashraf
Ghani and his associates. When the three of them intentionally under
the guidance of America and Britain give direction to the military field
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commanders to evacuate their positions, causing the speedy fall of
many areas to the control of the Taliban.

▪ most importantly, the process of the Doha peace negotiation or
conspiracy to bring Taliban to power, was disrupted unexpectedly when
Ashraf Ghani and his team (nicknamed as the government of three
people) fled secretly the country, creating an unexpected and
unpredictable power vacuum. The power was not handed over to an
interim administration properly. The vacuum of power was created
intentionally by Ghani (it is not known yet whether Ghani’s flee was
arranged in negotiation with the American Embassy in Kabul or it was
solely decided by Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai himself to avoid facing the
destiny of former Afghan president, Dr Najibullah Ahmadzai who was
hanged by Taliban.) because Ashraf Ghani had a long conversation with
American authority in Kabul and in Washington prior to his flee, reports
say.
▪ It was one of the conditions of Taliban that in the so called, peace
condition president Ghani must step down and resign from government
and will not have any role in the new government.
▪ He may under the direction of America or himself intentionally created
a power vacuum to sabotage the whole process. The power vacuum
fostered the rapid collapse of the Kabul regime.
▪ The popular uprisings against the Taliban were not assisted and
intentionally disrupted by Ghani and his team of three.

I hope I was able to address to your query which illustrates the unexpected fall of
the Kabul government. I am fully in the picture how the situation developed in
various ways during the last four decades. The conditions in Afghanistan have
been going on in a proxy war, where there are multiple players involved one way
or another, going on like a documentary film for over forty years. but
unfortunately, it is still unknown when and how the constant tragedy will finally
end up.

WAJ: Thank you. We highly appreciate your cooperation and time in this
respect and pay tribute to your keen analysis expressed distinctly in your
articles. We also admire your courage for the consistent criticism and
denunciation of the corruption Ashraf Ghani’s administration and the crimes
committed by the Taliban. We believe that the people of Afghanistan together
and on their own will be able and as they are surely determined to overcome
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this predicament standing on their way. We believe that as long as that activity
is in place, the international community will not abandon those seeking peace
and progress in Afghanistan. Finally, it is a limit to what we can do, but we can
convey your voices to Japanese laguage understanding reader all over the world.
Although it is a modest force, We pledge to do my best. thank you again.